Mike Pence says he will fight grand jury subpoena as far as Supreme Court

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Mike Pence Says He Will Fight Grand Jury Subpoena As Far As Supreme Court
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By Thomas Beaumont and Jill Colvin, Associated Press

Former vice president Mike Pence has said he will challenge a subpoena by the special counsel overseeing investigations into Donald Trump to compel his evidence before a grand jury, and will pursue it to the Supreme Court if necessary.

Special counsel Jack Smith, appointed by the Justice Department, is investigating efforts by Mr Trump and his allies to overturn the results of the 2020 election.

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The former president spent the days before January 6 2021 aggressively pressuring Mr Pence to reject the outcome, even though his deputy had no power to do so.

Mr Pence was at the US Capitol presiding over a joint session of Congress as Mr Trump’s supporters violently stormed the building that day.


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Donald Trump supporters stormed the Capitol on January 6 2021 (John Minchillo/AP)

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“Let me first be clear: I’m going to fight the Biden DOJ subpoena for me to appear before the grand jury because I believe it’s unconstitutional and it’s unprecedented,” Mr Pence told reporters in Iowa, the state that will hold the first contest of the 2024 nominating sequence.

“Never before in American history has a vice president been summoned to appear in court to testify against the president with whom they serve,” he added.

Mr Pence said he was prepared to take the case “as far as it needs to go, if needs be to the Supreme Court of the United States”.

The posture marks an aggressive turn for Mr Pence, who has been laying the groundwork for a likely presidential run.

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While it remains unclear whether he will succeed in delaying or limiting the scope of his evidence, the posture gives the former vice president a new opening to attack the Justice Department, which has become increasingly unpopular among conservatives, in part due to Mr Trump’s constant attacks.

Indeed, Mr Pence repeatedly criticized the department on Wednesday, complaining of a “two-tiered justice system that Republicans have been dealing with throughout the Biden administration”.


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Donald Trump (Alex Brandon/AP)

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The Associated Press previously reported that Mr Pence was ready to contest Mr Smith’s demand for his appearance on constitutional grounds. He argues that because he was serving in his role as president of the Senate on January 6, he is protected under the constitution’s “speech or debate” clause from being forced to give evidence.

That provision is intended to protect members of Congress from questioning about official legislative acts.

The Justice Department, which had earlier declined to comment on the subpoena, is expected to oppose the former vice president’s efforts and make the case that his co-operation is essential.

Mr Pence noted during an earlier stop in Minneapolis that he had written and spoken extensively about Mr Trump’s efforts to pressure him to overturn the results of the election — something he did not have power to do — and has repeatedly denounced the former president’s efforts as “reckless” and “dangerous”.

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“I have nothing to hide and I’m proud of what we accomplished. But for me, this is a moment where you have to decide where you stand, and I stand on the constitution of the United States,” he said.

He added that he expects Mr Trump to try to assert executive privilege to block his own evidence. “That’s not my fight. My fight is on the separation of powers,” Mr Pence said.

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